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		By: Iain Grysak		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Iain Grysak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2018 03:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://spaciousyoga.com/teaching-vs-preaching-embodiment/#comment-223&quot;&gt;Troy&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for your comments Troy. I&#039;m glad the article resonates with where you are at right now!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://spaciousyoga.com/teaching-vs-preaching-embodiment/#comment-223">Troy</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments Troy. I&#8217;m glad the article resonates with where you are at right now!</p>
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		By: Troy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2018 19:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the reply on the third series article! Well done once more. My perspective totally intersects this piece. I have experienced a tremendous softening in the past few years. Raised in fundamentalism, took my own flank towards militant atheism and since have delved deeply into the Ashtanga vinyasa and Kriya yoga (self realization fellowship) paradigms, only to come to that conclusion that the guru is within. My teacher is my experience. Once I awakened to that realization there has been little desire in me to defend my perspective to others, or evangelize the poor souls dabbling in &quot;shallow new ageism&quot; or any of the other biases I used to validate my sense of supirioriry my ego gained from attaching itself to systems outside of the Self. 

No doubt, much experience is to be had, but I found this piece incredibly resonant. Really hope to study with you one day. My teacher, Brinson Leigh Kresge, was studying with Rolf and Marci a few times that you were there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply on the third series article! Well done once more. My perspective totally intersects this piece. I have experienced a tremendous softening in the past few years. Raised in fundamentalism, took my own flank towards militant atheism and since have delved deeply into the Ashtanga vinyasa and Kriya yoga (self realization fellowship) paradigms, only to come to that conclusion that the guru is within. My teacher is my experience. Once I awakened to that realization there has been little desire in me to defend my perspective to others, or evangelize the poor souls dabbling in &#8220;shallow new ageism&#8221; or any of the other biases I used to validate my sense of supirioriry my ego gained from attaching itself to systems outside of the Self. </p>
<p>No doubt, much experience is to be had, but I found this piece incredibly resonant. Really hope to study with you one day. My teacher, Brinson Leigh Kresge, was studying with Rolf and Marci a few times that you were there.</p>
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		By: Mouni		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2018 11:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://spaciousyoga.com/teaching-vs-preaching-embodiment/#comment-220&quot;&gt;Iain Grysak&lt;/a&gt;.

Didn&#039;t mean to judge, let me rephrase, I wish I could feel you from reading your blog. It&#039;s an interesting one to research if and how you can transmit that energy of embodied truth in written word.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://spaciousyoga.com/teaching-vs-preaching-embodiment/#comment-220">Iain Grysak</a>.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t mean to judge, let me rephrase, I wish I could feel you from reading your blog. It&#8217;s an interesting one to research if and how you can transmit that energy of embodied truth in written word.</p>
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		By: Iain Grysak		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2018 06:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://spaciousyoga.com/teaching-vs-preaching-embodiment/#comment-214&quot;&gt;Shane Scaglione&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, well paraphrased. Working at the embodied sensation level in asana is how one can experientially understand what is healthy and appropriate on any given day. This makes asana practice sustainable and empowering in the long term and makes it a tool for deepening the understanding of the self. A good teacher will help us in this process.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://spaciousyoga.com/teaching-vs-preaching-embodiment/#comment-214">Shane Scaglione</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, well paraphrased. Working at the embodied sensation level in asana is how one can experientially understand what is healthy and appropriate on any given day. This makes asana practice sustainable and empowering in the long term and makes it a tool for deepening the understanding of the self. A good teacher will help us in this process.</p>
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		By: Iain Grysak		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2018 03:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://spaciousyoga.com/teaching-vs-preaching-embodiment/#comment-219&quot;&gt;Mouni&lt;/a&gt;.

Embodiment certainly doesn&#039;t preclude thought or articulation of thought. In many instances, embodiment will contribute to greater clarity and concentration in thought and articulation thereof.

In all fairness, I feel that you would have to know me and be engaged in a personal relationship with me, in order to judge whether I &quot;walk the talk&quot; or not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://spaciousyoga.com/teaching-vs-preaching-embodiment/#comment-219">Mouni</a>.</p>
<p>Embodiment certainly doesn&#8217;t preclude thought or articulation of thought. In many instances, embodiment will contribute to greater clarity and concentration in thought and articulation thereof.</p>
<p>In all fairness, I feel that you would have to know me and be engaged in a personal relationship with me, in order to judge whether I &#8220;walk the talk&#8221; or not.</p>
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		By: Mouni		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2018 20:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for addressing and researching this topic and sharing your current view. It&#039;s an interesting one to get your head around!
After reading, I&#039;m left with, wait what? That&#039;s a lot of thoughts, for somebody preaching embodiment ;)
I&#039;d say walk the talk and make your audience feel from which space you are sharing.

With love,
Mouni]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for addressing and researching this topic and sharing your current view. It&#8217;s an interesting one to get your head around!<br />
After reading, I&#8217;m left with, wait what? That&#8217;s a lot of thoughts, for somebody preaching embodiment 😉<br />
I&#8217;d say walk the talk and make your audience feel from which space you are sharing.</p>
<p>With love,<br />
Mouni</p>
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		By: Iain Grysak		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2018 12:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://spaciousyoga.com/teaching-vs-preaching-embodiment/#comment-217&quot;&gt;dan&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, I&#039;m glad if that perspective works for you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://spaciousyoga.com/teaching-vs-preaching-embodiment/#comment-217">dan</a>.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m glad if that perspective works for you!</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2018 10:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Embodiment is actually EXACTLY a fragmented dualistic &#039;mode&#039;. It is this very mode from which the neverything (nothingeverything whole) becomes separated and the world appears in opposition.

It is clear what you are saying about the flaws in Buddhist thinking (the dogma) and the relationship we have with our environment (the science), but to say that embodiment does not suffer from these dualistic pitfalls is to simply choose one &#039;Way&#039; over an other.

You could say that embodiment IS the ultimate in dualistic endeavours, as it is that embodied energy of being an alive, sensing &#039;thing&#039; that gives rise to the many symptoms of separation.

It is just another concept; another bandwagon to jump on, equal in weight to dogma or science.

One may find that one jumps from one sinking ship to another, from one concept to another philosophy, from one scientific explanation to another &#039;way to live and think&#039;.... until all &#039;ways&#039; are seen through.

This seeing-through happens, not as if through this dualistic mind-body &#039;thing&#039;, but via the unfathomable absence-of-the-absence; from nowhere; nondual; in which all paths and ways, embodiments, sciences and dogmas are not cast-aside and chastised, but seen as the sweet and gorgeous attempts by so-called individuals to come &#039;home&#039;; an essentially futile effort to gain that Love that has never left, never arrived, never moved and that is more familiar than familiar - what &quot;i&quot; really is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Embodiment is actually EXACTLY a fragmented dualistic &#8216;mode&#8217;. It is this very mode from which the neverything (nothingeverything whole) becomes separated and the world appears in opposition.</p>
<p>It is clear what you are saying about the flaws in Buddhist thinking (the dogma) and the relationship we have with our environment (the science), but to say that embodiment does not suffer from these dualistic pitfalls is to simply choose one &#8216;Way&#8217; over an other.</p>
<p>You could say that embodiment IS the ultimate in dualistic endeavours, as it is that embodied energy of being an alive, sensing &#8216;thing&#8217; that gives rise to the many symptoms of separation.</p>
<p>It is just another concept; another bandwagon to jump on, equal in weight to dogma or science.</p>
<p>One may find that one jumps from one sinking ship to another, from one concept to another philosophy, from one scientific explanation to another &#8216;way to live and think&#8217;&#8230;. until all &#8216;ways&#8217; are seen through.</p>
<p>This seeing-through happens, not as if through this dualistic mind-body &#8216;thing&#8217;, but via the unfathomable absence-of-the-absence; from nowhere; nondual; in which all paths and ways, embodiments, sciences and dogmas are not cast-aside and chastised, but seen as the sweet and gorgeous attempts by so-called individuals to come &#8216;home&#8217;; an essentially futile effort to gain that Love that has never left, never arrived, never moved and that is more familiar than familiar &#8211; what &#8220;i&#8221; really is.</p>
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		By: Iain Grysak		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2018 09:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://spaciousyoga.com/teaching-vs-preaching-embodiment/#comment-215&quot;&gt;Ben Roth&lt;/a&gt;.

I like your definition of embodiment very much: &quot;Feeling so at home in yourself, so grounded in this living world that you don’t need another concept than just that.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://spaciousyoga.com/teaching-vs-preaching-embodiment/#comment-215">Ben Roth</a>.</p>
<p>I like your definition of embodiment very much: &#8220;Feeling so at home in yourself, so grounded in this living world that you don’t need another concept than just that.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Ben Roth		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 19:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for sharing your thoughts again.
As far as I am concerned, I never felt very prone to falling into the trap of asking another human to explain the world to me. I think I have a sound human understanding about the relativity of truths and the limits/biases of the human cognitive faculty in general.

I also wonder sometimes why so many people give it all away, all their life’s power wasted for an easy path to follow. To me it seems, a central reason for this tendency is the fear of the unknown. Not many people can endure a state of uncertainty, the enduring mystery of our existence. That’s ultimately what you avoid to face when you blindly turn to a guru or any ideology.
And what could be a remedy for this human foolishness? Embodiment. Feeling so at home in yourself, so grounded in this living world that you don’t need another concept than just that. 

And one more quote that fits well to the topic of objectivity, it’s by Terence McKenna:

&quot;Science does not deal with subjective experience... Well that&#039;s too bad because that is all any of us ever have.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing your thoughts again.<br />
As far as I am concerned, I never felt very prone to falling into the trap of asking another human to explain the world to me. I think I have a sound human understanding about the relativity of truths and the limits/biases of the human cognitive faculty in general.</p>
<p>I also wonder sometimes why so many people give it all away, all their life’s power wasted for an easy path to follow. To me it seems, a central reason for this tendency is the fear of the unknown. Not many people can endure a state of uncertainty, the enduring mystery of our existence. That’s ultimately what you avoid to face when you blindly turn to a guru or any ideology.<br />
And what could be a remedy for this human foolishness? Embodiment. Feeling so at home in yourself, so grounded in this living world that you don’t need another concept than just that. </p>
<p>And one more quote that fits well to the topic of objectivity, it’s by Terence McKenna:</p>
<p>&#8220;Science does not deal with subjective experience&#8230; Well that&#8217;s too bad because that is all any of us ever have.&#8221;</p>
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